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Proving I  didn't learn much from last week's problems... This is my second  attempt at posting  this week's edition...Thank goodness I can try to recreate it with the help of my handy dandy sidebar of history...

• We princesses young and old need to stick together. Jaded Sunburns  introduces her daughter's blog The BT Princess and Beth of MVRWC introduces her daughter's blog Little Miss Princess ...Head on over, take a look at the next generation of bloggers, and share some linky love and comments...

• Because the world is a better place with kids blogging and not sitting in a Yemeni prison, Armies of Liberation shares a post and a link to this petition
• Via Annika's Journal ...So this is what I have...Very funny take-off of an actual pamphlet my office used to have in the waiting room!
• Euphoric Reality's 7 part series is this week's must read. This is most certainly going to be heading this year's Best of the Blogosphere come December
• Soldiers' Angel jumps on the podcasting bandwagon and leaves us looking forward to many many more

    As I said, I had to take time to re-create this post so I am out of time this morning. I am headed to enroll Bryceton in his new school...Stupid brainless school district wench the other day informed us we needed to have a NOTARIZED copy of a letter from my parents stating we lived with them in addition to a copy of bill. Isn't it funny that school bureaucrats seem to all be cut fro the same cloth? Until we meet again...which will probably be later today or tonight or this weekend...

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[little miss princess]

thank you miss crystal for linking me!!! you are so pretty and sweet!!!!

[Don and Annette Hall]

Now that Kit Jarrell and Heidi Thiess of Euphoric Reality have apparently finished their now 10-part series, which portrays us as villains, and Gary Linderer and his band of brothers as selfless heroes, we will be posting our rebuttal on the web next week. We will place a notice on Wizbang and on the Thiess/Jarrell site when it's ready and give a pointer to the web location.

The conduct of these two women in writing their "Brother Against Brother" series has demonstrated beyond a doubt that they are ill qualified to tell this story fairly. Our mistake was believing Thiess and Jarrell when they said they were "investigative journalists." Instead, they have clearly demonstrated that they ascribe to the Michael Moore school of blogging and employ the Dan Rather method of investigative journalism.

We have also learned a great lesson that you can’t tell a blog by its cover. We should have requested a copy of THEIR DD214’s before we began dealing with them in depth after they responded to our original email and said they wanted to investigate our allegations against Gary Linderer. Their DD214’s would have given us a better idea just how qualified these two women actually were to do a story of this magnitude and complexity. In their zeal to support Mr. Linderer and his buddies, they have deliberately misstated important facts, omitted inconvenient facts that support our allegations against him, and have engaged in extreme hyperbole and mischaracterization, the likes of which one usually sees on extremist left-wing blogs.

Our rebuttal next week will illustrate exactly why they are ill qualified to investigate anything to do with combat operations in Vietnam, and, in our opinion, anything to do with combat operations period. We will show readers that Thiess and Jarrell have been suckered in by Gary Linderer and his very vocal group of supporters, and that they have engaged in the very same sort of disinformation tactics that Linderer and his men have employed with great success over the years.

Because of their behavior, it is apparent to us that Thiess and Jarrell are of a character that causes them to feel a deep kinship with Linderer and his men, and as they got to know Linderer and his supporters more fully, they felt a deep desire to be accepted by them. It’s easier to go with the group against the two than it is to stand with the two against the group. And, if you have to distort facts or omit damning evidence in order to accomplish that, well, the ends justify the means. The irony is that these two gullible and mendacious women have helped Gary Linderer's small group of "Vietnam fabulists" embellish the 20 November 1968 story even further, even to the laughable point of contradicting what they wrote in their books.

As we’ve said over and over again, if a thousand people tell a lie, it doesn’t make it the truth. Stay tuned…

[HE!D!]

Halls:

And a lie told a thousand times doesn't make it the truth, either. Though G-d knows you've tried...

So your mendacious campaign against these veterans will now expand to include us. We're not surprised at all - this is simply your way - as you've done with anyone who's ever disagreed with your spurious version. As predictable as ever...

However, in all fairness, that rock-solid prediction wasn't completely intuitive. After all, you DID threaten us that you would "ruin our reputations as bloggers" if we published our series. We already counted that cost, and the truth matters too much to let you bully us into silence.

We're looking forward to your personal attacks on us. Maybe it'll give the honorable veterans of the F/58th LRP a little breather, while you refocus your hatred on us.

[Don C. Hall]

Gary Linderer has consistently claimed to have earned two (2) Silver Stars and two (2) Purple Hearts, all for the same day's combat in Vietnam, on 20 November 1968. He used these high honors to enhance his professional reputation and credibility as an author and his fitness to be consulted as an expert on LRP operations. Records I obtained in 2000 by FOIA request from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO., refute Mr. Linderer's claims of two Silver Stars and two Purple Hearts for the same day’s combat actions of 20 November 1968. Because Mr. Linderer has lied about his medals, according to the NPRC records, then readers have to view everything Mr. Linderer writes in his book with a skeptical eye. The text of Linderer's NPRC record is as follows:

National Personnel Records Center Military Personnel Records 9700 Page Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 OFFICIAL LIST OF AWARDS The Official Military Records of GARY A. LINDERER [SSN removed] show that he is authorized the following awards and decorations for his service in the US Army:

SILVER STAR
BRONZE STAR MEDAL W/FIRST OAK LEAF CLUSTER AND "V" ARMY COMMENDATION MEDAL
W/FIRST OAK LEAF CLUSTER AIR MEDAL
GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL NATIONAL DEFENSE
SERVICE MEDAL
VIETNAM SERVICE MEDAL W/4 BRONZE SERVICE STARS
COMBAT INFANTRYMAN BADGE
REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM CAMPAIGN RIBBON W/DEVICE (1960)
REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM GALLANTRY CROSS W/PALM UNIT CITATION BADGE SHARPSHOOTER
BADGE W/RIFLE & MACHINE GUN BARS EXPERT BADGE W/AUTO RIFLE BAR
////////NOTHING FOLLOWS/////////////
R. L. HINDMAN,

Director

From the United States National Archives: DA 1594 DAILY STAFF JOURNAL OR DUTY OFFICER'S LOG. These are the contemporaneous, unbiased, official radio reports from units in the field using the US Army "SALUTE" reporting system. SIZE of the enemy, ACTIVITY of the enemy, LOCATION, UNIT, TIME, and ESTIMATED strength.
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G-2 & G-3 Section 101st Abn. Div. Camp Eagle YD808162 20 Nov. 1968 1000H (C) G2 recd msg fr 1st Bde stating: At 2400H to 0400H vic An Nong Village YD918093 & An Nong 3 YD933106 in Loc Bon village, info came in from village chief to A Co that 30 VC last night came through loc above. Primary purpose was to collect money,
but would eccept rice instead. They came from south and returned south.

1200H (C) G2 recd msg 2d Bde stating: At 1130 H vic YC829900 LRP TM #24 ambushed est enemy sqaud (reinf) moving E on trail at YC 829900. Appartently rice carrying detail, for only two were VC were armed. En appeared to have been heading towards hill # 512 at YC 8490. Res: 9 VC KIA, 2x 45 pistols CIA. Note: 8 VC were killed outright, one was captured but was seriously wounded. This VC later died after attempt to evac him was made. No friendly cas. 1220H (C) G2 recd msg fr 2/17 stating: At 1124H vic YC8490 LRP Tm #24 amb 9 VC, 5 women & 4 men. LRP Tm believes VC were porters. Res: 5 female KIA BC, 4 VC male KIA BC, 2 x US 45 Cal pistols. VC were moving towards Hill 513 YC8490.

Item no. 11 - 0945 hours (C) G2 recd msg fr 2d Bde stating: At 0530H vic YC829901 2/501 LRRP Tm #24 fnd fresh footprints made by sandels. Heading 340° NW from loc. More to follow.

Item 17 - 1200H (C) recd msg fr 2d Bde stating: At 1130H vic YC829900 LRP Tm # 24 ambushed est enemy sqaud (reinf) moving E on trail at YC829900. Apparently was a rice carrying detail, for ony two VC were armed. En appeared to have been heading toward hill # 512 at YC8490. Res: 9 VC KIA, 2 x 24 pistols CIA. Note: 8 VC were killed outright, one was captured but was seriously wounded. This VC later died after an attempt to evac him was made. No friendly cas.

Item 18 - 1220H (C) G2 recd mes fr 2/17 Cav stating: At 11245H vic YC8490 LRP Tm # 24 amb (ambushed) 9 VC, 5 women & 4 men. LRP Tm believed VC were porters. Res: 5 VC female KIA, 4 Male KIA BC. 2 x US 45 Cal pistols. VC were moving towards Hill 513 YC8490. Neg US cas.

Item 33 - 1620H (C) G3 recd mes fr 2/17 Cav stating: 2/17 (C) reports LRRPs in RZ Brenda are in heavy contact, 9 cas. Request 1 Co RRF. 1st Bde will supply the company - A/2/502. Insertion controlled by credit 4.

Item 36 - 1645 H (C) recd msg fr 2d Bde, at 1620H, vic YC839880, LRP Tm 24 made contact
w/unk size force. Res: 2 US KHA, 8 WIA. A complete report will be turned in tonight.

Item 48 - 2043H (C) G3 recd msg fr 2/17 Cav, LRP medevac completed 1830H, C/ARP ext fr contact site 1920H, shuttle to Brick has not been closed.

Item 51 - 2130 H (C) G2 recd msg fr 2/17, total 3 KHA, 21 WHA (8 serious, 13 minor), all cas fr LRP Co except 8 WIA fr ARP. One Kit CASON was WHA (minor) not included in 21 WHA.

SUMMARY: A LRP tm of F/58 Inf ambushed ten en [enemy] moving N on trail vic [vicinity] YC839887. The res [results] were eight enemy KIA and two wpns [weapons] capt [captured]. In subsequent encounter w/a [with a] reinforced enemy squad, the team killed on addtional en [enemy] in the same area.

THIS IS WHAT REALLY SUPPORTS THE ABOVE:
G-2 & G-3 101st Abn. Div CAMP EAGLE DATE 23 Nov. 1968 page 5 of 7. Item No 35 - 1429 hours (C) G-2 recd msg fr 2d Bde stating: At 1325H vic YC83888 D/2/501 1st plt at 1240H fnd 8 bodies: 7 x VC, 1 NVA, 4 pairs of PJ, 20 lbs of rice, 1 kettle, equipment left by LRPS: 1 x WP grenade [grenades], 1 x bottle of whole blood, LRP rations, poncho liner, 6 x US rucksacks, 1 x sewing kit and 5 xclaymore. Note: The 8 x VC were previously reported.
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From Linderer's EYES BEHIND THE LINES book, page 11- "My first full day back with F Company was occupied with replacing the weapon and all the gear and equipment I had lost November 20. I had to start from scratch replacing my LBE [load-bearing equipment] and my rucksack and pack frame."

From Gary Linderer's book EYES BEHIND THE LINES: Page 10 - "The fact that we had killed over two hundred NVA, including the executive officer of the NVA 5th Regiment did not lesson his grief."

200 NVA soldiers killed as claimed in these books does not equal the actual ten (10) recorded at the time of the events in the DA-1594 records.
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These many so-called Random House/Ivy/Ballantine books are from this: "The virtuous image of the Bertelsmann media empire has been destroyed by a devastating historical study into the company's Nazi links that exposes its post-war success as built on a lie."

http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/story.jsp?story=340907

It was impossible to expalin map reading 101 to these two female Bloggers. They over looked soem 300 plus pages of National Archive Records to went with the war stories told by some half a dozen authors who have an invested interested in having Gary Linderer keep his two Silver Styars and two Purple Hearts which Linderer finally told these two female bloggers that he did not have. That was and is the story. Gary Linderer does not have the two Silver Stars nor the two Purple Hearts! As Linderer wrote in his book, EYES OF THE EAGLE that a third of the men in his unit were suffering from "Delusions of grandeur." After they fragged their new Company Commander in July 1968.

It's about the fakery and falsehoods of using made up military awards and decorations that men died for to promote books that are not based on any national archive records. END OF STORY...